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Fascinating, all stuff completely unknown to me. Love the personal memories, the images from old magazines, etc. The magazines especially now seem so . . . bygone.

Three points:

1. In reaction to "As an example, consider the sequence of characters elephan_. What letters (in English) could occupy the blank spot? Only the letter t. From an information-theory perspective, that means that the letter t in that position adds no information to what we already knew. Its information content is effectively zero . . ."

Is that necessarily true? Think about some letters that might be used. From elephanx, one might infer that we were looking an effort to talk about this species in a non-binary way. Elephanz might imply something in a hip-hop direction. Elephanh looks vaguely archaizing, elephanj exoticizing in a Persian direction--both, along with others, possibly evoking a fantasy-novelesque usage. (Remember Tolkien's "oliphaunt.") And so on.

Might some suggestion arise here of the difference between word-production, and word-play--with some of what that implies (please forgive me, or at least bear with me) of anti-capitalist, anti-modernist critique?

2. Speaking of word-play, I was struck by how much better I liked 2-gram Shakespeare than 2+n-gram Shakespeare. The first gave me such pleasure, I laughed out loud with delight. If a parodist (human or LLM) had written it, I would have thought, "this is absolutely brilliant, completely spot-on." (The random mention of "Diana" may be key: when writing Shakespeare, if in doubt, stick in a random classical deity.) But 3, 4, and 5 gram seemed . . . dreary? From them no pleasure did I take, anyway. 6-gram wasn't much better, but it did inspire me to think, "I need to read more Shakespeare!"

3. Do LLMs engage in play, word-play, or parody? From one who engages with these systems a lot, I get the sense they do, or can. I have never conversed with one. The idea makes me nervous.

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